Discussion Starter • #1 • Mar 20, 2019. Hi guys. Decided to go slow and do them part by part, replacing them with oem mopar parts. I've talked to one other Tundra owner running these Moog arms with the Moog bj's, and he's of the opinion they are better than OEM. I know i can't go wrong with the oem parts but not everyone can ball out lol. Clunking went away and came back so I dk wtf the issue is now. Discussion Starter • #1 • Mar 20, 2019. Use of CAD and factory testing such as the fitness, finish, along with performance monitoring like the durability to endure the weight is what thrives them to produce world-class products like the ball joints. Messages: 207 Likes Received: 2 Joined: Jan 31, 2015 Location: Lilburn. I was wondering if any of y'all had any good experiences using moog or if you know where I can find the mopar parts for a good deal. My 4Runner needs new front LCA bushings. My steering before this was perfect - nice and tight and she turned when and where I wanted her to. If you compare a poorly remanufactured alternator to oe you will be disappointed. I read it and while I do agree to an extent, talking about Moog was almost like an ad for them. If there's any other brands that are good, I'm open to all suggestions! Just to be clear, I'm asking about control arms w/ bushings, not ball joints. How does it compare to uro loerndern and other i see? Another decent option in … 2006 Super Black Xterra S, Original Owner. Some of their stuff is just rebranded chinese, some is made in mexico, and some is still made in the us, but no way of telling when you're buying. I’ll review the products in detail, discuss their features, pros, and cons. Since lowering my car with the eibach pro kit, i believe it ended up exposing failing parts that ended up forcing me to replace sooner than expected. I'm thinking of replacing the entire tie rod assembly on each side and the center link. NAPA: $157. ... Why yes, I have a burning hatred of those POS's, why do you ask? For the sake of just getting my car up and running, I ended up replacing the passenger tie rod end and lower control arm with the duralast brand. Moog Vs. OEM Balljoint with pics Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Slykin, Jul 9, 2012. FWIW, I have one OEM bj leaking after ~80000. Moog vs Motorcraft OEM steering parts. This is not the end. Find all the MOOG after-market car parts in our wheel bearings and steering and suspension catalogues. You can pretty much find better stuff at walmart. Like so many things in life many parts are get what you pay for. ¿Por qué las piezas de repuesto de Moog no duran tanto como las piezas originales?Why Moog car spare parts don't last long as Original parts What Does the Future of Professional Motorsports Look Like? Have read lots of advice to use only OEM bushings on suspension. The moog were cheaper then the OEM. Vintage Racer Group Now Welcoming Cars Through the 1980s, How to Find Your Ideal Chassis Alignment Settings, Why It Pays to Replace the Intercooler While Servicing the Timing Belt | Project Toyota MR2, What Really Happens to a Car When Its Gasoline Sits? © 2021 Motorsport Marketing. FWD, get OEM axles from the junkyard and re-boot and re-grease them (don't know about older IRS cars). Long story short- Proforged is probably good quality on most of their parts, but MOOG is reputable. Control arm comparison . Personally I avoid Moog as they are not what they once were in my experience. The amount of hard work they put in every product allows them … Since lowering my … In certain cases Download the MOOG car parts catalogue. I'm replacing all of my suspension parts on my 06 charger 3.5l since they haven't been done since 06. She is a daily drive although no really rough roads or anything. There are some scare stories about various aftermarket ones, and this is a pretty damn important piece. FWIW, I have one OEM bj leaking after ~80000. This is why many car owners are always at a crossroad whenever they intend to change their suspension system. Example:  My '97 Camry's water pump was made by Aisin. They were usually dealer maintained with OE parts when needed. OEM for sure. But if you buy a gates rad hose from an oe dealer or an aftermarket distributor it’s more than likely the same part. On my past Subaru, I used Moog sway bar end links, sway bar bushings, and tie rod end. 66 Posts . If moog or napa built a 4runner, would you buy it? By the end of the comparison, you’ll be able to make an informed choice. Location: Texas Hill Country. Your balljoints suck. The sway nar parts were toast in 5 years (OEM lasted 12) and the tie rod ends were clearly inferior to OEM. Both of the brands have produced consumer-friendly great products. Messages: 3,545 Likes Received: 118. Seems to me that buying whole new LCAs is my best bet, considering my time/benefit/lack of garage equation. ChargerForums to connect with the Dodge Charger community to discuss SRT, Hellcat models, maintenance, mods and more. Moog tie rod ends vs oem Continue. I’ve always used moog and never had an issue. Steering effort with the Moogs was hugely increased over the outgoing OEM LBJ's. However in my experiences there are some aftermarket companies that take OEM parts to the next level of quality. Page 2 of 3 < Prev 1 2 3 Next > Jul 20, 2017 at 2:27 AM #11. I've seen moog a lot and from other forums a lot of people seem to use them. Don't cheap out. The only difference between them was the absence of "TOYOTA" cast into the pump. ", I'm ordering OEM, thanks for spending my money everyone. Read Next: Moog Ball Joints vs OEM. I rarely had good luck with import aftermarket starters/alternators. Not so obvious. After the switch I noticed that Moog ball joints have a loose feel any time you move the steering wheel. Joined Jan 7, 2018 Messages 642 Location London Car CL500 Blueefficiency Hello I need to replace the lower arms of my car, however MB oem parts appear to be double the price of lemforder. Moog Inc. is a worldwide designer, manufacturer, and integrator of precision control components and systems. Moog ball joints reduce friction and enhance stability by allowing grease to flow to the stud. My Build Thread My LED Conversions. Ball joints? The moog were cheaper then the OEM. Have read lots of advice to use only OEM bushings on suspension. The two well-known aftermarket brands are Mevotech and MOOG. Ray Franck. my6thgen.org Profile Info. It give the steering wheel a stiffer feeling then the Moog. A lot of people shit on Moog these days. … They measure the elasticity of the joints, spray test, and even the stud pulling. The Mevotech Vs MOOG comparison has lingered for a long time. D is for DENALI Full Access Member. Note: I use Moog balljoints and RockAuto control arms on the BMW rally car, because they have a better rep in that application. Built to the toughest tolerances and strictest quality, MOOG® universal joints meet OEM standards and provide unmatched performance and reliability. In some instances I use dealer sourced because you can see the difference. By turbogrill, January 17, 2017 in ... NAPA generally has better parts as well. To be fair, you used one of the cheap Jeep's as an example. I just changed mine. I actually bought one of the aftermarket brands and installed them, and after all the reading I did, I got pretty sketched out and actually took them out and bought the more expensive OEM ones. Basically, I've tried a few different kinds and only OEM and MOOG have been reliable. Then we get into the part that is being replaced. Here, in the Mevotech vs. Moog comparison guide, I’ll discuss the wheel bearings and control arm by both brands in detail. My question is: is it worth spending much more on the OE parts over NAPA or Rock Auto? Discussion Starter • #1 • May 4, 2012 (Edited) Need my Front Control Arms changed on my 2002 M5 (81K) aka 'Lft traction strut without rubb.mounting.' There is confusion about choosing an OEM or aftermarket parts. Forged steel Moog vs aluminum Beck/Arnley? 137 Posts #21 • 7 mo ago. Moog used to make fantastic parts, but the last 10 years or so they have been outsourcing more of their work to foreign countries and their quality has tanked. That Right side end is HEAVY! Decided to go slow and do them part by part, replacing them with oem mopar parts. The old ball joints seized and I had new ones put in at the dealership, but they used Moog, not Mopar. I have faith in Moog and their years of experience. 11 Posts . Especially if it’s a Mevotech vs Moog issue. Messages: 207 Likes Received: 2 Joined: Jan 31, 2015 Location: Lilburn. I might keep it for use as a barbell. If this is true, does that mean that moog is better? Alternator? OEM Suspension Bushings vs Moog Discussion in 'KJ General Discussion' started by libertybob, May 18, 2015. MOOG is a trusted brand with internationally recognized high quality car … Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for MOOG Front Right Tie Rod End VOLVO S40 I VS V40 Estate VW OEM VVES2240 274226 at the best online prices at … Found out recently my 95 SR-5 needs new lower ball joints (at least one) and idler arm. Then I guess you all have your answers lol. How Moog bushings are? Review: Endlinks Comparism: OEM vs Moog vs Racingline User Name: Remember Me? Messages: 3,789 Likes Received: 11. I agree that Moog can contact me by phone* You must agree to allow Moog to contact you by phone. Just to be clear, I'm using ball joints as an example that there is no universal one-is-better-than-the-other rule. | Garage Rescue Miata, Scoring a Deal on a Used, Legal Race Engine | Project Vintage Race Mustang, Robb Holland Helps You Tackle the World´s Greatest Race Tracks—Virtually | Coming Soon To an Issue Near You, Trial By Wire: Creating You Car's Electrical System From Scratch. A lot of people shit on Moog these days. Premier Member. Thread Tools: 03-14-2012, 02:08 AM Thread Starter #1: PetitFrereMaxima. Any Moog part with an R in it is cheap, so steer clear as mentioned above. This. Quote; Link to post Share on other sites. I am a huge advocate of OEM parts for stuff like this, aftermarket has its place, but to save 40$ Vs. your safety? They have been replaced by Moog because that is the beefiest they can get from CarQuest. That's fair, we can amend the rule to "OEM is usually best, unless the vehicle is Italian. Posts: 150 Likes Received: 131 Joined: Jun 23, 2017 Name: Matt "I can take a dump in a box and mark it guaranteed, I will, I got spare time." My Sequoia uses the same LCA setup and parts, and on the Toyota forums it's pretty widely agreed to ONLY use OEM. Password: This thread is more than 150+ days old. Each to their own. 94 (moog) vs 42 (oem). For the Nissan Cube — I’d go with Timken out of these three. AC Delco: $76. Moog’s high-performance systems control military and commercial aircraft, satellites and space vehicles, launch vehicles, missiles, automated industrial machinery, wind turbines, marine applications, and medical equipment. Moog Suspension Parts was first mentioned on PissedConsumer on May 27, 2016 and since then this brand received 15 reviews.. Moog Suspension Parts ranks 89 of 427 in Auto Parts and Accessories category. I’ve tried and tested both before compiling this guide. 66 Posts . The sway nar parts were toast in 5 years (OEM lasted 12) and the tie rod ends were clearly inferior to OEM. After 16 years in both aftermarket and OEM parts, I can say this is sometimes true. But biggest noise reducer was new bushings. Technical Advisory Committee Contact Information. The subaru oem ball joint is a better ball joint in my opinion. Seems to me that buying whole new LCAs is my best bet, considering my time/benefit/lack of garage equation. Switching worn sway bar bushings makes a huge difference on noises, definitely go with OEM bushings. I've talked to one other Tundra owner running these Moog arms with the Moog bj's, and he's of the opinion they are better than OEM. Going to do outer tie rod end soon. MOOG Parts are quality steering and suspension parts with almost 100 years of history. And when talking about ball joints, their popularity has some serious backing. Thank you. I've had parts of theirs fail in under 1000 miles in the past few years. The subaru oem ball joint is a better ball joint in my opinion. I'm replacing all of my suspension parts on my 06 charger 3.5l since they haven't been done since 06. w201 suspension help-moog vs lemforder vs delphi? These companies don’t build those parts just like apple does not build the iPhone. Full disclosure I work in the aftermarket parts industry, so I’m biased. Sooooo I have an oddball question for y'all. Joined: Jul 11, 2009 Location: Tyler, Texas. Beck/Arnley: $109. Sooooo I have an oddball question for y'all. But are they the same? Toyota parts are not available until next Tuesday at the earliest. Also those who have installed the MOOGs where there any fitment issues or did they go in like OEMs? I'll offer the OEM ball joints on Jeep Patriots which are utter garbage. On my older Dodge, grease boots crack and fall off in very short time and I have to replace. The same can be argued for many parts on a vehicle. Moog; One of the reasons why Moog features as one of the best ball joint brands is its design. 66 Posts . It was garbage before they even built the parts. Recent recommendations regarding this business are as follows: "steer away from moog, go factory … Discussion Starter • #1 • Apr 2, 2019. All rights reserved. They were installed per FSM within the last two weeks. My Sequoia has plenty of non-OEM replacement parts on it as well. Moogs are junk, same with most of the other aftermarket options. Thanks!! I've been doing all of the labor myself too and it's been fun! On my Toyotas, I usually like OEM. The Moog LBJ's in this video have less then 200 miles on them, while the OEM LBJ's are brand new. Members; Ray Franck 2,526 Posted January 17, 2017. I am replacing my lower control arms this weekeNd. So I have always used moog suspension parts. I fully realize that oems outsource parts but in my opinion the quality of part suppliers are not all equal. Joined Apr 1, 2006 Messages 535 Location Central PA The local alignment store broke the OEM tie bar ending this afternoon at 3pm on a Friday. Honda/Toyota? Discussion Starter • #1 • Jul 13, 2018. OEM suspension parts vs Lemforder vs febi Thread starter Riva811; Start date Jan 2, 2019; Jan 2, 2019 #1 Riva811 Active Member. Your Projects: The Least Expensive Factory Five Cobra? Also those who have installed the MOOGs where there any fitment issues or did they go in like OEMs? Moog Produkte finden in vielen Industrieanwendungen Einsatz – von der Automobil-, Luft- und Raumfahrtindustrie über die Umformtechnik, die Kunststoffverarbeitung und den Motorsport bis hin zu Anwendungen in Windenergieanlagen sowie in Gas- und Dampfturbinen.Weltweit vertrauen führende Hersteller, Maschinen- und Industrieanlagenbetreiber auf die Effizienz, Präzision und Robustheit der Moog … Depends on the aftermarket company. The OEM link kits are well over $100 for just one link kit. 142 Posts . Any Moog part with an R in it is cheap, so steer clear as mentioned above. May 18, 2015 at 7:40 AM #1. libertybob Full Access Member. I noticed many german made parts for the benz, moog in my opinion is top tier for what we can buy in the usa. So the Motorcraft oem tierod end seems thinner than the more expensive moog variation ($20 vs $60). I'm trying to have my car last me another 4 years! Jul 9, 2012 #1. Here are a few notes on both brands' suspension parts, including ACDelco Professional vs Advantage, and MOOG's famous Problem Solver. That car was a beater, but I would not want to use Moog components on anything I plan to keep for a long time. MOOG Parts is the preferred steering and suspension brand for thousands of drivers and mechanics in the United Kingdom. The Moog Problem solvers are the quality ones. Also, last time I had checked they did not manufacture a replacement for the problematic front lower control arm/Tension Strut. YMMV. Hey all-Steering in the 190 has gotten sloppy. MOOG suspension components being a good example, they take for instance a ball joint, reverse engineer the part and and then recreate a replacement part that is of a higher quality. Sep 3, 2019 at 8:39 AM #9 #9. cruxofthebisquit Well-Known Member. It would probably be that sweet blue, right? I used moog endlinks on front (replaced the weak plastic cup design) when both OEM links broke around 65k and the moogs have been solid. M1Gunner likes this. So I've been doing some research and reading up on some threads on quality/reviews on these two brands on our cars. Do you think components like ball joints, bushings, brake parts ..... are made by GM or Ford. Moog values your privacy, therefore, it will only collect the minimum amount of personal data needed to achieve the result that you request and to which you affirmatively consent. My issue is that these mopar parts individually are pretty expensive! If you still feel it is necessary to bump this thread, you have the permission to do so. Last edited: Jul 20, 2017. Usually MOOG is the go-to part for people who don't want to go for true OEM. My question is: is it worth spending much more on the OE parts over NAPA or Rock Auto? #2 03-27-2017, 07:59 PM Diseasel300. Aftermarket is aftermarket though, so I always go OEM personally. Yes and no. Best way to decide is research the forums and see what kind of luck others are having. Uhg, uhg. On my past Subaru, I used Moog sway bar end links, sway bar bushings, and tie rod end. Check Altrom it may very well be the oe manufacturer who supplies them. My steering before this was perfect - nice and tight and she turned when and where I wanted her to. spark plugs? Moog is definitely not what it once was. They all went bad after 60K except for the lower rearward control arm bushing, taking in consideration that I live in Wisconsin we have very bad roads so i decided to replace them with cheap Ebay parts, 2 months so far and they still are doing good no issues till now. After the switch I noticed that Moog ball joints have a loose feel any time you move the steering wheel. Is there a difference in quality, ride, whatever when going with Meyle (spelling ???) The OEM link kits are well over $100 for just one link kit. Kinda. Sometimes OEM is best, sometimes it ain't. Control arm comparison . 11 Posts . Decided to go slow and do them part by part, replacing them with oem mopar parts. JavaScript is disabled. Also, should I just get the matching duralast lower control arm and tie rod end for the driver side or will a different brand be fine? With a price delta that low, I'd go OEM for sure. You can always find out who made the parts for the manufacturer and buy them direct. The tie rod ends were replaced at some point, but they are in need of replacement. Discussion Starter • #1 • 8 mo ago. The culprit is the crimp at the top of the ball joint (as installed) which maintains tension on the ball - it can fail, leading to a loss of tension in the ball joint or a complete failure. I don't trust moog anymore. Ive been looking at ball joints and such and was wondering if there really is a difference in Moog vs the 20 dollar ones. I’ll review the products in detail, discuss their features, pros, and cons. Duralast vs Moog? I’ll admit there are product that are harder to find good quality aftermarket replacements. Most of their OEM parts are better than 90% of the aftermarket stuff unless you find the exact manufacturer. … Not always usa made, but top quality. With replacement parts you have to consider the OEM. If you wouldn't, then dont. I need to replace both-side upper control arms, lower ball joints, lower rearward control arm, inner tie rod; driver lower control arm and tie rod end. I’ve tried and tested both before compiling this guide. Obvious. I might be wrong, but I remember KOYO wheel bearing being OEM for some Nissan and Subaru vehicles. Moog vs oem Discussion in 'Engine & Drivetrain' started by Peezer123, Jul 19, 2017. Again, simple: the brand’s a direct OEM replacement across all Jeep generations. Hi guys. Yeah, I wanted to go with the most cost effective option for this suspension refresh since I'm pretty much replacing every arm/bushing. Mevotech Supreme is good stuff, much better than OEM. MOOG replacements are better, plus come with grease fittings. The overall rating of the company is 1.8 and consumers are mostly dissatisfied.. It’s been so for several decades, and Spicer U joints have an optimal fit and performance with Jeep beasts. 76 Posts . Find the right steering or suspension parts here. I would love to do my front end in Speedlogix stuff. Moog vs german suspension parts. Let’s look closer at these two for a quick review, shall we? It give the steering wheel a stiffer feeling then the Moog. She all stock and purdy much going to stay that way. If you go through my build thread I have a comparison with pics of the moog lca's vs oe. Jul 9, 2012 #2. My indie claims that the lemforders will last a year or so and break … Since lowering my … BruhBrahBrad Well-Known Member. dre5491, Sep 3, 2019 #8. jetfishn, TurbulentLamp [OP] and CS_AR like this. Don't have any experience on the Napa stuff. I’m not even sure if Moog or SKF have bearings for that particular model. Not always a hard and fast rule here. Mevotech Supreme is good stuff, much better than OEM. Moog is the best quality brand aftermarket bushings AFAIK. o5vkK8OeWeMWeq1qQrN4IBkEuJgHjTmdIWBJryuGvIMkmgbXXGfWTvE5G2oNSc9X. 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